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sundown |
Published: 2007/11/30 1:02 Updated:
2007/11/30 1:02
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Not too shy to talk
Joined: 11/27/2006
From: California - S.F. Bay area
Comments: 384
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
Y..E..S!!!!
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SZAMAN |
Published: 2007/11/30 1:42 Updated:
2007/11/30 1:42
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Just popping in
Joined: 11/27/2006
From: Poland
Comments: 67
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
Hyperion & ACube
Sto lat, sto lat, Niech zyja, zyja nam. Sto lat, sto lat, Niech zyja, zyja nam, Jeszcze raz, jeszcze raz, niech zyja, zyja nam, Niech zyja nam! http://www.polishamericancenter.org/StoLat.htm |
TSK |
Published: 2007/11/30 1:45 Updated:
2007/11/30 1:45
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Just can't stay away
Joined: 02/23/2007
From: Finland, the land of Santa, sauna, sisu and salmiakki
Comments: 1209
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
Congratulations !
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SKOLMAN_MWS |
Published: 2007/11/30 2:54 Updated:
2007/11/30 2:54
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Just popping in
Joined: 12/01/2006
From: Poland
Comments: 36
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
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orgin |
Published: 2007/11/30 7:44 Updated:
2007/11/30 7:44
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Supreme Council
Joined: 11/16/2006
From: Sweden
Comments: 3294
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
Ordered a copy from a swedish dealer a few days ago. Not that i can use it, but just to get the box and to show a little support.
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AmiKit |
Published: 2007/11/30 7:46 Updated:
2007/11/30 7:46
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Quite a regular
Joined: 12/01/2006
From: Europe
Comments: 532
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
Great news!
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Raziel |
Published: 2007/11/30 9:12 Updated:
2007/11/30 9:12
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Home away from home
Joined: 11/26/2006
From: a dying planet
Comments: 5572
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
Thank you
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acefnq |
Published: 2007/11/30 9:13 Updated:
2007/11/30 9:13
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Quite a regular
Joined: 11/25/2006
From: Adelaide South Australia
Comments: 622
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
FANTASTIC WORK.
ace |
nubechecorre |
Published: 2007/11/30 9:22 Updated:
2007/11/30 9:22
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Just can't stay away
Joined: 11/24/2006
From: Sanremo
Comments: 1899
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
Great news!!
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ikir |
Published: 2007/11/30 10:10 Updated:
2007/11/30 10:10
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Not too shy to talk
Joined: 11/27/2006
From: SYS:Prefs/
Comments: 374
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
ACube keep delivering the promises.... Amiga inc should learn a lot from them.
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AmigaPapst |
Published: 2007/11/30 10:32 Updated:
2007/11/30 10:32
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Just popping in
Joined: 12/01/2006
From: Amigavatikan
Comments: 191
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
I love news like this and such pictures.
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nubechecorre |
Published: 2007/11/30 11:56 Updated:
2007/11/30 11:56
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Just can't stay away
Joined: 11/24/2006
From: Sanremo
Comments: 1899
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
It is in my hand !! oh my god the package is great and the instruction manual is wonderfull !! oh my is from the time of workbench's manual that i don't see nothing like that but this time is not black and white but color !!
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Mikey_C |
Published: 2007/11/30 12:06 Updated:
2007/11/30 12:06
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Amigans Defender
Joined: 11/19/2006
From: Cambridgeshire, UK.
Comments: 2147
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
you're pulling our legs! You can't have got it already? surely?
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nubechecorre |
Published: 2007/11/30 13:15 Updated:
2007/11/30 13:15
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Just can't stay away
Joined: 11/24/2006
From: Sanremo
Comments: 1899
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
yes ! i live in italy and the delivery with ups are fast if they are inside the country
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Cool_amigaN |
Published: 2007/11/30 13:51 Updated:
2007/11/30 13:51
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Just popping in
Joined: 12/26/2006
From: Athens/Greece
Comments: 145
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
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AmiGame |
Published: 2007/11/30 15:05 Updated:
2007/11/30 15:05
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Not too shy to talk
Joined: 11/22/2006
From: P'Boro, UK... Could that be ?
Comments: 496
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
@All involved !
Congratulations ! Promise kept (release date), even better !!! Jerry |
ssolie |
Published: 2007/11/30 18:06 Updated:
2007/11/30 18:06
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Amigans Defender
Joined: 11/26/2006
From: Canada
Comments: 986
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
Great job by ACube on the web site etc. as well!
Seems Hyperion has picked a good partner for a change. |
glames |
Published: 2007/11/30 19:17 Updated:
2007/12/1 10:32
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Not too shy to talk
Joined: 11/28/2006
From: France, Nantes
Comments: 252
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
Congrats to all involved!!
I definitely like the idea of the printed manual comeback |
Antique |
Published: 2007/11/30 19:31 Updated:
2007/11/30 19:31
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Home away from home
Joined: 11/30/2006
From: Norway
Comments: 2628
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
This is great news. Go Hyperion. I get wet dreams when watching the pictures of the os4 box
@orgin: Who's selling os4 in sweden? |
Jurassicc |
Published: 2007/11/30 19:38 Updated:
2007/11/30 19:38
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Not too shy to talk
Joined: 11/27/2006
From: Somerset, UK
Comments: 358
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
@Antique
click on the link in the news item. |
Outcast |
Published: 2007/11/30 22:07 Updated:
2007/11/30 22:07
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Quite a regular
Joined: 11/17/2006
From: Peterborough. Big-Bash-Shire. England, Distro:Ubuntu & Os4
Comments: 789
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
Oh Maaaan
Good news indeed. Oh Carl... Good to see your were not involved in that Taunton Crash T'other night !! |
OldAmigan |
Published: 2007/12/1 0:06 Updated:
2007/12/1 0:08
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Just popping in
Joined: 02/17/2007
From: Dumfries, Scotland
Comments: 116
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
Wouldn't a SAM type board as an addition to the A1200/3000/4000 be nice to run OS4 on?
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fjudde |
Published: 2007/12/1 10:48 Updated:
2007/12/1 10:48
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Just popping in
Joined: 12/02/2006
From: Stockholm, Sweden
Comments: 13
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nubechecorre |
Published: 2007/12/1 11:27 Updated:
2007/12/1 11:27
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Just can't stay away
Joined: 11/24/2006
From: Sanremo
Comments: 1899
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
It is more fast than i could ever imagine.. wow and the installation is very very easy just put the floppy and the cd and amiga makes all
Thanks Hyperion and ACube for this great software .. only amiga makes it possible |
nubechecorre |
Published: 2007/12/1 17:41 Updated:
2007/12/1 17:42
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Just can't stay away
Joined: 11/24/2006
From: Sanremo
Comments: 1899
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
Should i create a post for problem about amiga os for classic ? i have problem about graphics that get corrupted on the top border of the window and the amiga screen..
My config is AMIGA 1200+MEDIATOR+PPC+128Mbram+VOODOO 3 3000 I have also problem with the resolutions i can use only 800x600 because higher resolution are wrongly displayed even with the right settings of my monitor ( the same that i use with my micro ).. |
nbache |
Published: 2007/12/3 0:27 Updated:
2007/12/3 0:27
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Just can't stay away
Joined: 12/01/2006
From: Copenhagen, Denmark
Comments: 1540
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
@OldAmigan:
Quote: Wouldn't a SAM type board as an addition to the A1200/3000/4000 be nice to run OS4 on? Hey, what an excellent idea! I wonder why nobody has thought of this before? I can't possibly imagine what could be stopping them. (Sorry, couldn't resist a bit of irony for once.) Best regards, Niels |
DiscreetFX |
Published: 2007/12/3 1:37 Updated:
2007/12/3 1:37
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Just popping in
Joined: 10/05/2007
From: Chicago
Comments: 150
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
Is anyone going to digg this story?
http://digg.com/tech_news/AmigaOS_4_0 ... assic_Amiga_available_now |
orgin |
Published: 2007/12/3 12:42 Updated:
2007/12/3 13:01
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Supreme Council
Joined: 11/16/2006
From: Sweden
Comments: 3294
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
@nbache
Well, one does wonder what would be required to get the classic os4 package to run on the SAM. In terms of drivers and such. As a community effort separated from Hyperion and ACube. Amiga Inc (or whatever they are called this afternoon) wouldn't be able to say much about that, licensed or not. All the while Hyperion/Acube gets more sales from the classic version. Edit: Sort of like AmiKit. An installer with the required drivers and patches that requires the classic OS4 CD. |
Swoop |
Published: 2007/12/5 12:41 Updated:
2007/12/5 12:41
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Quite a regular
Joined: 11/24/2006
From: Long Riston, East Yorkshire.
Comments: 756
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
Can this news item be made sticky, it is quite important.
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klesterjr |
Published: 2007/12/5 16:22 Updated:
2007/12/5 16:22
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Illusionist
Joined: 11/29/2006
From:
Comments: 419
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
@orgin
I like this idea a LOT. |
Rogue |
Published: 2007/12/5 20:37 Updated:
2007/12/5 20:37
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Quite a regular
Joined: 11/24/2006
From:
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
Quote:
Well, one does wonder what would be required to get the classic os4 package to run on the SAM. In terms of drivers and such. As a community effort separated from Hyperion and ACube. The classic kernel is written for 603/604 CPU's, while the SAM440 has a 440 (as the name implies), which pretty much ruins the plan. The CPU is totally different. |
Snuffy |
Published: 2007/12/5 21:15 Updated:
2007/12/5 21:15
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Just can't stay away
Joined: 12/06/2006
From: Michigan
Comments: 1027
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
nubechecorre
You make me sick! |
orgin |
Published: 2007/12/6 5:09 Updated:
2007/12/6 5:09
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Supreme Council
Joined: 11/16/2006
From: Sweden
Comments: 3294
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
@Rogue
I see. Too bad then. |
AmiGame |
Published: 2007/12/6 9:51 Updated:
2007/12/6 9:51
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Not too shy to talk
Joined: 11/22/2006
From: P'Boro, UK... Could that be ?
Comments: 496
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
@Rogue,
Are you currently working on a SAM440 AOS4 version ? Jerry |
ChrisH |
Published: 2007/12/6 17:58 Updated:
2007/12/6 17:58
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Home away from home
Joined: 05/19/2007
From: England
Comments: 3582
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
@Swoop
You can always pour glue on it, if you're desperate to make it sticky! |
orgin |
Published: 2007/12/7 9:32 Updated:
2007/12/7 9:32
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Supreme Council
Joined: 11/16/2006
From: Sweden
Comments: 3294
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
@Rogue
Just as a separate discussion. There's generally large differences between different ppc processors? In contrast to say x86 processors I mean. As there's usually no problems installing an old redhat linux on a todays x86 processor that wasn't even though of back when the distro was made. Or is it that the x86 bios takes care of setting up the system and a corresponsing functionality has to be built into os4 exec directly since there is no firmware to provide it for the os? If so, can this be layered in some way to keep such specifics away from exec and just let exec run on any ppc op-code compatible cpu while other lower level modules are needed to tie it to the specific cpu's? |
tfrieden |
Published: 2007/12/7 11:21 Updated:
2007/12/7 11:21
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Just popping in
Joined: 11/24/2006
From: Aachen, Germany
Comments: 178
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
@ orgin
Quote: There's generally large differences between different ppc processors? In contrast to say x86 processors I mean. As there's usually no problems installing an old redhat linux on a todays x86 processor that wasn't even though of back when the distro was made. That's not really comparable. Actually, the 60x/7xx/74xx are a different CPUs compare to the 440. The 440 uses a different MMU (Book E style). It's mainly aimed at being an embedded CPU, hence it has no hardware-loaded MMU table (not even hardware assisted like on the 603e), to eliminate the need for a large MMU table. You can load 64 translation registers, if that's enough for your system, you don't need an MMU table. The 64 bit implementations (970, Cell) have yet another MMU model (although they can use the 32 bit bridge to become compatible). The different PowerPC cpu's have the same user-mode code, but in "kernel" mode, they differ (MMU handling, cache handling, CPU feature handling etc) Quote: Or is it that the x86 bios takes care of setting up the system and a corresponsing functionality has to be built into os4 exec directly since there is no firmware to provide it for the os? The x86 cpu's are all desktop/server CPU's, they aren't meant for small-scale systems like the 440, therefore, all of them handle the MMU in the same way (don't know if there's a difference between AMD and Intel chips, though, but I suspect not). Quote: If so, can this be layered in some way to keep such specifics away from exec and just let exec run on any ppc op-code compatible cpu while other lower level modules are needed to tie it to the specific cpu's? Actually, that's what the HAL is for. It's separated into machine and CPU (and a common) part. The machine part deals with machine specific issues, like PCI and interrupt controllers, and the CPU part deals mainly with MMU, caches and on-chip timers (and interrupt controller if it's on-chip). |
orgin |
Published: 2007/12/7 11:32 Updated:
2007/12/7 11:34
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Supreme Council
Joined: 11/16/2006
From: Sweden
Comments: 3294
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
@tfrieden
In short 'yes' to my first question then. Quote:
And os4 classic has that level of HAL layering (Ie the cpu specific parts) right now, making it at least in in theory possible to just replace those parts with something that uses the same api's? Or is all/part of it compiled into the same binary?( either by necessity or design) |
tfrieden |
Published: 2007/12/7 11:37 Updated:
2007/12/7 11:37
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Just popping in
Joined: 11/24/2006
From: Aachen, Germany
Comments: 178
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
Quote:
And os4 classic has that level of HAL layering (Ie the cpu specific parts) right now, making it at least in in theory possible to just replace those parts with something that uses the same api's? Or is all/part of it compiled into the same binary?( either by necessity or design) It's compiled into the same binary. There are multiple reasons for this, mostly because it's easier that way and makes it a bit more efficient (some parts of the HAL are constants compiled into the standard code). Dynamically linking it would be possible, but isn't really necessary. |
Outcast |
Published: 2007/12/10 17:28 Updated:
2007/12/10 17:28
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Quite a regular
Joined: 11/17/2006
From: Peterborough. Big-Bash-Shire. England, Distro:Ubuntu & Os4
Comments: 789
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
I love a cunning Plan !!
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poweramiga |
Published: 2007/12/10 23:33 Updated:
2007/12/10 23:33
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Amigans Defender
Joined: 11/18/2006
From: Flinders NSW Australia
Comments: 772
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
now i regret selling my PPC card would have liked to see os4 running on classic HW
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orgin |
Published: 2007/12/18 7:16 Updated:
2007/12/18 7:16
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Supreme Council
Joined: 11/16/2006
From: Sweden
Comments: 3294
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Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now
@tfrieden
Btw, would it not be possible to let a core components support a few if not all of the cpu types? Depending on cpu, different code gets executed and different sets of constants are used. |